I got to spend some time on #WorldVapeDay talking with the incomparable Logan Exhales for his Rise and Vape podcast. We had a great discussion about vaping, harm reduction, the current climate of the world and where we are right now.

I told my smoking story and we discussed where maybe the vape industry lost it’s way over the years and so SO much more. Logan is a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you so much for having me on.

-Grimm